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Meeting Summary
1982 NGA Annual Meeting
Afton, Oklahoma (August 8-10)
Guests:
Hon. Ray Barnhart
Federal Highway Administrator (TCT)
Hon. John R. Block
Secretary U.S. Department of Agriculture (AG)
Dr. Lewis M. Branscomb
Chairman, National Science Board (education for a high-tech economy)
Hon. William E. Brock
U.S. Trade Representative (ITFR)
David S. Broder
Syndicated Columnist, The Washington Post (special session on the press and the state house)
Edward Burke
President, National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners (EE – special session)
Dr. John T. Casteen III
Virginia Secretary of Education (education for a high-tech economy)
Hon. Don Clausen
U.S. Representative from California and Ranking Minority Member, Committee on Public Works and Transportation (TCT)
Dr. Edward E. David Jr.
President, Exxon Research and Engineering Company (education for a high-tech economy)
Hon. Manuel Deese
City Manager, Richmond, Virginia (HR)
John E. Dever
Chairman, Network on State-Local Relations, International City Management Association (CED and SLR)
Charles J. Dougherty
Chief Executive Officer, Union Electric Company (EE – special session)
Ambassador Thomas O. Enders
Assistant Secretary Inter-American Affairs, U.S. Department of State (Task Force on North American Cooperation)
Hon. Thomas S. Foley
U.S. Representative from Washington and House Majority Whip (AG)
Thomas F. Frist Jr.
M.D., President and COO, Hospital Corporation of America (EM)
George F. Grode
Executive Director, Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency (CJ)
Lois Herrington
Chairman, President’s Task Force on Victims of Crime (CJ)
Frank Jackman
Consul-General of Canada, Dallas, Texas (Task Force on North American Cooperation)
Hon. James R. Jones
U.S. Representative from Oklahoma and Chairman, House Budget Committee (CED and SLR)
Hon. Ruth Keeton
Council Member, Howard County, Maryland (TCT)
Mary Ann T. Knauss
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Intergovernmental Affairs
U.S. Department of Commerce (Task Force on North American Cooperation)
Hon. Marc Lalonde
Minister of Energy, Minerals and Resources, Canada (EE – special session)
Hon. Patience S. Lattin
Mayor, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (TCT)
Quentin Lawson
Vice President, Public Technology, Inc. (HR)
R. T. Mulcrone
General Manager, City Venture Corporation (CJ)
Guy Nichols
Chairman, President, and CEO, New England Electric (EE – special session)
Charles A. Ott Jr.
Director, Division of Emergency Services, State of Arizona (CJ)
Hon. Terry Sanford
President, Duke University (EM)
Charles W. Schmidt
President and CEO, S. D. Warren Division, Scott Paper Company (EE – special session)
Lee Thomas
Associate Director, Federal Emergency Management Agency (CJ)
Hon. Thomas J. Volgy
Council Member, Tucson, Arizona (TCT)
Hon. James E. Watt
Secretary, U.S. Department of the Interior (EE)
Richard S. Williamson
Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs (CED and SLR)
Ronald S. Wishart
Director, Energy and Transportation Policy, Union Carbide (EE – special session)
Discussion Subjects:
Restoring balance to the federal system: next steps on the Governors’ agenda
Points of Interest:
Governors followed up their 1981 discussion of federalism. Mention was made that in his 1982 State of the Union address, President Reagan had said that federalism should become part of the national debate. And in fact federalism negotiations between Governors and the Administration had begun with the Governors' 1982 Winter Meeting. Governor Bruce Babbitt of Arizona said there was an emerging consensus that entitlement programs were uniquely federal responsibilities. Governor Lamar Alexander of Tennessee stated that President Reagan understood the importance of maintaining the Food Stamp program at the federal level, and that federal takeover of Medicaid was under discussion. A controversial policy position considered by the Governors was to urge that Congress prohibit or restrict the use of oil drilling take-or-pay contracts and contracts with indefinite escalators. ["Take-or-pay" referred to a contract under which a fixed price was set but the purchaser was obligated to pay for the duration of the contract, whether or not ‘he' wished to continue taking the product. Ultimately, deregulation—with its resulting drop in prices—caused defaults or payment delays on the part of those who had signed "take-or-pay" contracts at higher fixed prices.] Supporters of the policy position argued that during the phase-in of deregulation (scheduled to be finalized in 1985), automatic escalator clauses would impose serious burdens on consumers in addition to what they were already experiencing. In addition, take-or-pay contracts forced consumers to pay higher prices when less expensive alternatives were available. In contrast, opponents of the policy position—representing oil-producing states—argued that without the take-or-pay guarantee for whatever was being produced to be sold, there would be no incentive for drilling, and in the end, consumers would be best served by more energy production. The policy position was adopted after a friendly amendment was attached that urged Congress to consider restrictions on (as opposed to prohibiting) industry practices that tended to inflate prices artificially by undermining market forces. Another controversial motion considered by the Governors was to support a constitutional amendment to balance the federal budget. Opponents contended that it gave too much power to the Executive Branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Supporters argued that it was time for Congress to show restraint, and that the requirement for state ratification ultimately left the decision in the hands of legislatures at the state level, representing the American people directly. In the end, support was insufficient to achieve the three-fourths vote required for adoption of the motion.
Memorable Quotes:
Governor Bruce Babbitt of Arizona said the following regarding negotiations with the Administration and Congress over the division of functions between the federal government and state and local governments: "It is really analogous to climbing a mountain. You measure your progress by looking down to where you have come from or up to where you have to go. I prefer to look down at how far we have come in the last six months...I would say that [the] emerging consensus...is separating in this way; an increasing acceptance of the fact that entitlement programs, income-maintenance programs, the president's safety net are uniquely federal responsibilities because they talk about the relationship of government to the basic needs of individuals because those needs are driven in such large measure by the state and nature of the national economy...But there are many local programs not tied so directly to the national economy...that are now poised to be devolved from the federal to the local governments." Governor Richard Snelling of Vermont said: "Federalism describes a larger role for people in setting realistic priorities appropriate to their state and community. Federalism does not seek increases or decreases in spending. It seeks an end to the waste and neglect which result from decisions made too far away from accountability." Governor Snelling also said: "Federalism may be a little bit like the institution of marriage. One can make a very strong case for the institution, which does not mean that one has to accept any given proposition. We are entitled to seek a federalism that is harmonious to our beliefs—the states' beliefs—about what will work and what will not work." Speaking in support of a motion to adopt a constitutional amendment to balance the budget, Governor William Janklow of South Dakota said: "As an additional safeguard, every now and then...we have found it necessary to put into our Constitution protections for our citizenry from fears of abuses by government...It is kind of like some of us who are overweight. We go on a diet every Monday morning, but somehow, for various reasons, we don't have the resolve to get through the diet. It is like our Congress' passing resolutions all the time. They can't even figure out how to pass an annual budget. They can't figure out how to pass any programs that bring any fiscal sense to anything. The political process in America won't let them...We cannot trust these people that we have elected to represent us. So just like the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Third Amendment and the various other amendments embodied in the Bill of Rights, the time has truly come for the people of America to stand up and say that we must have an additional protection and safeguard from our government." Speaking against the motion to adopt a constitutional amendment to balance the budget, Governor John Rockefeller of West Virginia said: "I find it hard to believe that a group of governors is about to vote to do something that will preside over the reasonably prompt annihilation of the states over which we are elected by our constituencies to have stewardship...One consulting group, Data Resources, Inc., says that state and local governments would lose $49 billion tomorrow, that 2.6 million people would become unemployed almost immediately, that the inflation rate would be affected a total of three-tenths of 1 percent downward, which means that for each one-tenth of 1 percent downtrend in the inflation rate, you would be throwing 1 million people out of work. This balanced budget amendment would force extraordinary cuts in the federal budget...you and I know that whereas not all Congressmen are geniuses, and neither are all of us, they are of a mind that they have to face up to this problem...But to do it by constitutional amendment...would be asking for the most total devastation of human services for the people of this country." Selected Policy Positions Adopted: (1) Clarifying NGA's position that avoidance of federal preemption of state laws and policies should include protection of a state's authority to structure its own revenue system; (2) calling on the federal government to fully develop the Strategic Petroleum Reserve as quickly as possible and to use interim and regional storage of both crude and refined petroleum products in order to make emergency supplies of fuel resources available to all states; (3) calling on the federal government to limit imports of uranium to protect against threats to national security; (4) with respect to the production and marketing of natural gas, urging Congress to prohibit or restrict the use of take-or-pay contracts and contracts with indefinite price escalators, and to consider measures to ensure intrastate pipelines the access to natural gas equal to that available to interstate pipelines; and (5) reaffirming support for the Equal Rights Amendment.
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